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We do have weekly Syndicated ratings, I don't recall Ellen ever appearing in the list.
You don't like "boring crime shows", but millions of people do. While I have no problem that you don't like CBS, I'd at least encourage you to try to explain it like a reasonable person instead of acting like a raving madman here. Thanks.
Average is how bestsellers and ratings giants are born.
I think people who like shows other people aren't watching just need to accept it and not blame ratings, time changes, or competition. As a fan of many genre shows (BSG, Farscape, Supernatural), I know it's hard. But kf someone wants to watch a show, they will. Lost is a good example. It has shed ratings, yes, but a significant number of people have followed it through time changes and different airings.
Cancel CSI, see how many of the old farts that watch that will get off their plastic covered couches to send in blood splattered sheets to resurrect their show.
I'm sure it's not a perfect mirror, but I'm equally sure that a.) the advertisers also know yout or they wouldn't pay advertising based on that data and b.) 1 Jericho fan does not equal 3 CSI fans.
And by the way, CSI in outrageous fashion has more 18-49 year olds watching than Jericho even reruns of CSI have more "young" viewers. Look it up!
CBS does skew older though, but that's not Nielsen's fault.
Which means, of course, that your whole operation is quite possibly based on lies, and in the end is a web site about the misinformation Nielsen puts out to keep the dough coming in. To report Nielsen's "ratings" as though Nielsen is beyond reproach is ludicrous.
Basically your web site and Nielsen's work together to give us the internet version of WWF Wrestling. Looks real but it isn't. But it's entertaining. Nobody has any idea at all how many people watch anything. Nielsen pretends they do, and it's lucrative, so they want to keep that facade going as long as they can. They've climbed into bed with the networks and everyone has a tacit agreement to admire the emperor's new clothes because there's a LOT of money to be made. The whole thing is a farce really.
If nobody has any idea of how many people watch anything, then neither do you. But unlike you, I'm involved in a blog reporting on television metrics, so what would you have me do, not comment on the Nielsen ratings?? Would you have the USA Today and the New York Times not do that either?
What's the worst case scenario? Shows that don't have enough viewers according to Nielsen don't get brought back by the networks buying the Nielsen data? And something that people get for free...goes away?
What's more likely:
1. Nielsen has a measurement system that while imperfect is the generally agreed upon metric that the TV networks [sellers] and advertisers [buyers] have agreed to use until something better comes along.
2. Nielsen, the networks, the advertisers [against their will or unknowingly?] are part of a huge carefully planned conspiracy to fool who into doing what? to take who's money? to defraud who?
Each other? So, they're all both criminally clever and stupid at the same time?
The public? When was the last time Nielsen asked you for money? Or NBC? ABC? CBS?
Please readjust your tinfoil hat, it seems to be blocking your vision.
Fine, Angie, you have a voice of reason, and Robert, you said i'm just a guy who complains... WELL I'M NOT DAMMIT... Jericho was the best show ever (in my opinion) and i'm doing what I can to support it. I try to find the loopholes to maybe give Jericho a very tiny chance of coming back. But at the same time, I
can also enjoy other shows. I never said I think
the ratings are flawed now did I? (although maybe... ya just doing that thing again, dont mind it) But nobody knows what they really are?
So don't go calling me an idiotic complainer, i'm kust trying to help a show, and you can think what you want, you can think that gossip girl is the light of the tunnel, or CSI, or nielsen for that matter, but don't go calling me a baby whiner, if there is a problem, i deal with it, don't go crying like a baby, like alot of you people.
Just wanted to confirm my theory that although it was abysmal from the get-go, G.Takei ran it into the ground..
nad1, you might try posting on Marc Berman's site at:
http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/63310451
and see if he, Travis or anyone else has it..