DISQUS

Jack · 1 year ago

Oh, no :( I guess this is pretty much bye bye Sarah Connor (and Summer Glau :)) :( We'll see when next mondays ratings are calculated

Robert Seidman · 1 year ago

Summer Glau indeed!

frankj · 1 year ago

Robert, do you have numbers for timeshifted DVR viewers from last night? I'm curious on last night's DVR numbers for Terminator:SCC. The first few numbers you have published for them show the show having an insane 22% of it's viewership as timeshifted. I mean it's a 10 million + viewer show when you take that into account. Plus they were doing pretty good at getting more 18-49yr viewers than Prison Break for a while. Do you know if Fox will take that into account when they talk renewal? Or do they not care? And if not, why not? Everybody I know DVR's shows, nobody has time to watch live.

Robert Seidman · 1 year ago

Frank, the SAME DAY DVR usage is baked into the number. I can’t break it out yet, and won’t be able to for a while (3 weeks from yesterday!)

If you look at the numbers for 2/4 it did 10.02m Live+7 vs 8.154 LIVE, the overnight #s for that day were about 8.85m live+SD, so I think it would be reasonable to add on about another million to last night’s overnight to forecast what the live+7 will be.

I’m guessing the show comes back, not so much because of DVR performance (the nets probably view more DVR viewers as bad, not good) but because it’s typically a strong 18-49 performer.

I enjoy the show much more than I thought I would.

frankj · 1 year ago

Thanks, Robert. I didn't realize the same day DVR's were included in those numbers.

I'm hoping for those million extra viewers for the live+7 for last night's show. I really want this show to come back. I rarely get invested in TV shows anymore, but this series surprised me, a lot actually. I was worried it'd be all head-bashing and poorly written camp, but it's not, and the thematic elements they're exploring are really cool. I think it has great potential and I hope Fox gives it a chance.

Bryan · 1 year ago

I hope Terminator comes back, I can't belive how short the season was in the first place. I thought they made 12 of them. I think this would be like 8 maybe? I hope they bring it back this fall or next year. Prison Break and Terminator work good back to back.

I WANT A NEILSON BOX AT MY HOUSE!!!

Jon V · 1 year ago

You'd think in this day and age with everyone plugged into cable (or at least with a TV account of some sort) that they could just take a BIG random sampling of what people are watching. I think the networks DON'T want the real numbers out there because it COULD cost them advertising $$$.

On a different note, last night's numbers are going to be skewed by the Movie Special, A Raisin in the Sun, so not a lot of new info as far as renew or cancel for 'bubble' shows.

kayarn · 1 year ago

quick breakdown:
about 300 million people in the country
about 126 million households
about 111 million of those have tvs
about 90-95 million of those have some kind of cable

so its not EVERYONE. but the theres only about 20 million still without cable. however, cable is so niche based that most people have the group of channels that they like (men= espn, tbs, spike) and thats sort of the cable bubble they live in. even if a show is on usa, many people have the channel and never even think once about seeing whats on it.

Jon V · 1 year ago

The 90-95 million with some kind of cable is a far cry from the 12,000 TV's that are monitored by Nielsen.

If the cable companies are somehow able to tell us about time-shifted watching, they certainly can give us more representative numbers on total viewers than the 12K Nielsen families (who could very easily be swayed by some sort of 'anomaly' like local affiliate lead-ins to prime time, etc).

The point is, the Nielsen Ratings need to be replaced by a much larger survey... but for some unknown reason (and I smell conspiracy) this is being avoided by exactly the people we 'think' would want to do it.

Jay · 1 year ago

Although I wasn't a big fan of the Terminator series, I can appreciate the cinematic ambitious to a TV serial. Usually during the translation between the two it can spell disaster but with the exception of John Connor being a bit of a grunge-douche, it was well done.

Anyway, to answer someone's question, the WGA mess was their last ditch effort to release something that would procure their network and tide them over, hopefully, until the strike ended. Low and behold, there ya go- it did just that. Originally it was supposed to be released during the summer so that's would be the size of a SUMMER season :P.